This week, Zac sits down with Michael Sviben. Michael is the co-founder and COO of Domain Guard (https://guardyourdomain.com). Domain Guard is a full service domain management platform offering services including Domain Monitoring, Brand Monitoring, Attack Surface Monitoring, Phishing Site Takedowns, Phishing Simulation, and Dark Web Monitoring. Zac and Michael discuss the importance of tool development, use of non-standards command and control protocols, and finish with a story covering ICMP command and control shells to bypass NextGen firewalls.